The Book Group & Richard Flanagan’s Question 7, page 77

Richard Flanagan, Question 7 (Knopf 2023)

Before the meeting: Richard Flanagan is a giant of Australian literature. His non-fiction work has been transformative. He has won the Booker Prize and many other awards.

Before this year, I had read one and a half of his novels and had no desire to read any more. My blog posts on The Unknown Terrorist and Wanting speak for themselves.

So, bidden by the Book Group, I came to Question 7 bristling with prejudice.

I was not encouraged by this passage on the second page:

Sometimes I wonder why we keep returning to beginnings – why we seek the single thread we might pull to unravel the tapestry we call our life in the hope that behind it we will find the truth of why.
But there is no truth. There is only why. And when we look closer we see that behind that why is just another tapestry.
And behind it another, and another, until we arrive at oblivion.

Oh really? Other opinions are available, but this struck me as the kind of thing Les Murray meant when he described another of Richard Flanagan’s books as ‘superficial, showy and pretentious’ (link here)?

But what the Book Group wants, the Book Group gets … I read on.

I found a lot to dislike. The whole Question 7 schtick struck me as ‘superficial, showy and pretentious’ (more about that later). There are a couple of pages that could have been written by a self-righteous teenager, denouncing Oxford holus bolus as misogynist, racist and imperialist; a sneer often hovers at the edge of Flanagan’s descriptions of other writers; there’s a muddled insistence that all time is now – a kind of mix-up of Kurt Vonnegut in The Sirens of Titan and co-opted Indigenous notions. Regularly, out of the blue, there will be a bit of ‘philosophising’ about the uselessness of words, or a portentous one-line paragraph: Chekhov’s non-sequitur, ‘Who loves longest?’ or the sub-Vonnegut refrain, ‘That’s life.’

It could have been an engrossing book. There are powerful portraits of his grandmother, his mother and his father, and a gruelling, operatic account of near-death as a young adult. Above all, there’s the way Flanagan sets out to explore his own origins in the context of world history.

His father was a prisoner of the Japanese in 1945 and would have died in the camp if not for the nuclear bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki – Flanagan owes his existence to that massively destructive act.

The book comes at that painful paradox from a number of angles: his father’s reminiscences of the camp; his own visit to its site, including an encounter with a former guard; stories about H. G. Wells, who coined the phrase ‘atom bomb’; the life of Leo Szilard, the scientist who first conceived of a chain reaction and after 1945 became a tireless campaigner for nuclear disarmament. It’s a fascinating tapestry of interlacing lives, thoughts and actions.

Flanagan is a Tasmanian, so he also owes his existence to the genocidal dispossession of the First Nations of luwitja. (In one of the recurrences that the book delights in, H. G. Wells’s novel The War of the Worlds was inspired that history.) There are powerful passages about colonisation, which (to my mind) he undermines by describing the term settler colonial society as lazy thinking because it hides the inequalities on which what he calls ‘the new Martian world’ was built. His point is that many of the first non-Indigenous arrivals were convicts, suffering terribly under the British system – and among them he counts his forebears. IMHO, settler colonial society is a fine term: patriarchy doesn’t hide inequalities among men; capitalist society doesn’t hide inequalities in our current world. The fact that you suffer doesn’t change the fact that you play an oppressive role. Not that Flanagan denies that, but he want to make it clear that his people were primarily victims rather than perpetrators.

But I’m getting irritated again.

Page 77* does not show the book in its best light. It falls in the midst of an excursion into historical fiction involving H. G. Wells.

The much younger Rebecca West has come into Wells’s life, and they are mutually entranced. After a first passionate kiss, he withdraws – not so much because he already has a wife and a mistress as because, according to Flanagan, she is too much his equal.

All that is evidently true to the known facts. West and Wells’s relationship was to endure. She had a son with him and they remained friends until his death. But at page 77 that’s all in the future, and she is struggling with his rejection of her:

Rebecca West, though, was not for defeat. For her, love and victory were synonyms. And she was not one for losing. She coupled audacity and ambition with an idea of stability she would forever after mistake older men as offering. She held herself to a high standard. She had written only a few months earlier how unrequited love was pathetic and undignified, adding as proof her contention that Christianity lacked dignity – and by implication was pathetic – not because Christ was crucified, but because his love for the world was unrequited. ‘A passion that fails to inspire passion,’ she wrote, ‘is defeated in the main object of its being.’

Having dispensed with God, she wrote to Wells that she was going to kill herself after being rejected by him, that all she could do was love. She had tried to hack the overwhelming love she felt for him back to the little thing he seemed to want. But even that, she realised, was too much for him.

Does that feel to you like a real person? Is it respectful of the historical Rebecca West? Does it use its sources fairly or even accurately? On the latter point, I looked up the essay it quotes (in The Freewoman, July 2012). It’s a brilliantly witty takedown of a book of literary history, in which the reference to Christ is cheeky, but not dismissive and not meant to prove anything. Flanagan is being snide, and not pretending otherwise. His Rebecca West is basically a comic character.

But what is she doing in this book at all? Maybe she’s there to establish that Wells was a truly complex, flawed human being (‘flawed’, to be specific, means physically ugly and using high-sounding ideals of free love to justify his promiscuity). It also serves the purpose of having a strong female presence in the historical part of the novel, which is otherwise full of men. This particular passage may owe something to her reference to Jesus echoing a repeated line in Flanagan’s The Unknown Terrorist: ‘the innocent heart of Jesus could never have enough of human love.’

The West–Wells story also, confusingly I think, seems to relate to the book’s title. That title is a riff on an early Chekhov short story, ‘Questions Posed by a Mad Mathematician’, an absurd parody of a mathematics quiz. The seventh quiz item starts with trains leaving stations at various times and ends with the non-sequitur question, ‘Who loves longer, a man or a woman?’ Because it’s posed as a question about gender, the Wells–West story (the only romance in the book) seems to hark back to it, but I think now probably not, as the version of the question that pops like a refrain, is simply, ‘Who loves longer?’ (Incidentally, the only version of Chekhov’s story I could find online, at this link, translates the question as, ‘Who is capable of loving?’ I’d be interested to know if the gendered version of the question is more a product of the gendered nature of the Russian language than of Chekhov’s intention.)

In the rest of the page, we follow the West-resistant Wells to Switzerland:

Wells arrived at his mistress’s magnificent Swiss retreat with his two sons and half a suitcase of scientific reprints concerning the recent discoveries about radium – discoveries that, he told Little e, as he called the diminutive Elizabeth, pleasantly took his mind as far away as laudanum once had Samuel Taylor Coleridge’s and which would form the basis of the novel he would write – the story of man summoning a power equivalent to the sun.

Wells runs from West to write the novel that is his reason for being in this book. It’s The World Set Free, in which he will coin the term ‘atom bomb’ and imagine with amazing accuracy the devastation such a bomb was to create. (I’m depending on Flanagan’s description. The novel is available at Project Gutenberg for the truly dedicated.)

Presumably the real-life Wells is being cited here, but what sense does it make to say that his lifelong interest in science was like a drug? In the immediate context, the implication seems to be that his interest in radioactivity is a distraction from the emotional turmoil associated with with Rebecca West. Am I wrong to read this as a sneer?

So, I look forward to having the virtues of the book made clear to me by people who have not been blinded by their own grumpiness.

After the meeting: After a wonderfully eclectic dinner over which we had exchanged important information about dumplings and life in general, we had one of the most interesting and spirited Book Group discussions ever.

Evidently it’s a love-it-or-hate-it book, and we were fairly evenly divided.

One man had hated the Wells-West thread so much that he re-read the book leaving it out, only to discover that he still hated the book, and spent days trying to figure out why. As I understand it, he realised that he regularly came up against a closing off of possibilities – just as Flanagan proclaimed he was opening up to complexity he would shut things down with a piece of certainty.

Another, on the contrary, read the book as an anti-narrative. Those shutting-down moments were a way of frustrating our quest for simple answers in an impossibly complex world. It’s important that Question 7 is about love, because all through the book there’s a dreadful intertwining of love and brutality.

Where some felt Flanagan was arrogant and withheld, others read him as exposing his own vulnerability. One loved the Rebecca West story; another loathed it. One read out a passage he particularly loved eliciting sympathetic nods from some and groans from others. Some felt that the book spoke directly to their own experience as colonial settlers, others not so much. I had to admit that I had got fixated on the things that annoyed me, and disregarded things that otherwise would have fed my soul.

None of us had previously heard of Leo Szilard. One of us said he now has Family Matters, by Flanagan’s brother Martin, on his to-be-read list, as a supplement to Richard’s account of his parents.

It was amazing! I don’t think anyone left feeling bruised. For myself, I intend to reread the book. But not for a while.


* My blogging practice for some time has been to focus arbitrarily on the page of a book that coincides with my age. Surprisingly, this page often reveals interesting things about the book as a whole.

24 responses to “The Book Group & Richard Flanagan’s Question 7, page 77

  1. That is enough to cross it off my list

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  2. Well, that was a reading by you, JS, that I did NOT expect. But who can know another’s perspective just because in accord with one’s own thinking on a good 95%+ of times. Anyway – my own response – HG and RW and Leo Szilard aside – almost at the start I was with Richard Flanagan because he let me know that his father’s period (longer than 1945, by the way) was not five or six km from the university at which I taught for 13 years in western Japan – in fact on many occasions driving the Seto Inland Sea seaside route at the back of Mt Dragon King (竜王山) past the site of the coal mine (under the sea) – without knowing anything of it at all. And the chap from the city’s local International Affairs Office who “looked” after him is someone known to me. So not only shocked that I had not known of the wartime PoW connection (and I had made a practice during my many years in Japan of tracking down most places associated with Australian PoW placement – and war cemeteries – and visiting them – and in touch with Tom Uren who was in Kyūshū at a couple of camps – copper and coal – who sent me relevant chapters of his then soon to be published memoir: Straight Left. So I am grateful for Richard Flanagan – even given his melancholy/world sadness – in that first setting-of-the-scene. He hasn’t all the settings on the Japanese quite right (according to my 16+ years living in Japan – many enduring close friendships and indeed family links both sides of the Pacific – Japan and here in Australia) but he’s pretty good. I had similar criticisms of and respect for Shirley Hazzard’s The Great Fire.

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    • Thanks, Jim. I realise I’m out of step with majority opinion on this one, and it’s good to hear your personal connection

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      • Jim Kable

        JS: You are not out of step – but merely responding to other aspects. Differently. Nonetheless it did take me by surprise. Oh, and I think there is actually some Lutruwita DNA line of descent in the Flanagan family – which – maternal or paternal? – the latter I think? I feel RF referred to it in his The Narrow Road to the Deep North. Unsure.

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      • That’s pretty much how we saw it in the group, Jim. Same book different aspects. He does mention Indigenous ancestry in this book, but doesn’t make a big deal of it

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  3. his father’s period as a PoW

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  4. My brother is not a Flanagan fan, probably for the reasons you don’t like him I suspect…

    I found this book intriguing though you ask good questions about the West-Wells bit. It’s the sort of book I’d have to read a few times to work out how it all fits. As it was, I enjoyed the general thrust of it and the ideas he played with. Noone in my reading group hated it but some were a bit bemused.

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    • I enjoyed the general thrust as well, Sue, but the execution kept ambushing me. Or, as someone in the group said, not completely unkindly, I couldn’t get over myself.

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  5. I’m a Flanagan fan (I wrote a guide to his novels for Penguin UK after he won the Booker) but not read this one. I’d be intrigued to know whether your book group’s split in the love or hate camps aligned with gender and/or age?

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  6. Gosh, like Jim K, I’m astounded.

    I can’t think of anything to say.

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    • Thanks for your restraint, Lisa! Usually when I don’t care for a book I feel obliged to hold back because I don’t want to cause grief. (I said something flippant, not even intentionally disparaging, in one blog post and received an agonised two-in-the-morning comment from the author.) But I figure my little voice won’t do Richard Flanagan any harm. There was some amusement in the Group when I mentioned that I’m going to hear him talk at the Sydney Writers’ Festival (and so is the other main disliker)

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    • I’m not really, Lisa, though I really enjoyed the book. I can see how he can irritate. I was reading my positive post again and even there I can see I was on a high thinking about the ideas but I could see holes in what I was saying too, if that makes sense. Still I got a little out of it and I did feel he made some points worth thinking about.

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  7. ROTFL, I don’t think I justified my opinion very well in my review either. 

    Maybe #musing it’s because Flanagan arouses emotion, and that makes it difficult to catch hold of why we like, or don’t like, them. 

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  8. I have struggled with Flanagan’s fiction over the years. I found The Sound of One Hand Clapping engaging at the time, but Gould’s Book of Fish was impenetrable, I abandoned The Narrow Road very early on and found The Living Sea to be an unnuanced rant.

    But for some reason I keep trying. There’s something that draws me in or makes me want to try his latest book each time. I do seem to get on better with his non-fiction. Toxic was an eye-opening expose of the salmon industry in Tasmania and I found a lot to admire and impress me in Question 7. But at work, the book divided our customers. Words like incomprehensible, self-absorbed and pretentious were used, but also brilliant, thought-provoking, demanding, affecting….

    I then really enjoyed reading his first novel, Death of a River Guide recently whilst on holiday in Tasmania. It made more sense reading it in situ, but also with the knowledge of how the kayaking accident has haunted him for his entire life. But I am endlessly fascinated by the changing narratives we tell about our lives, so it’s one of the areas I’m in sync with Flanagan in Question 7.

    You picked up the one thing that has been niggling me ever since I read Q7 back in January though with your paragraph on his “victims rather than perpetrators” idea. I couldn’t articulate what bugged me at the time, but you have.

    I will reread Q7 because it did capture my attention and I felt rather obsessive about it at the time (I was also recovering from Covid, so not always sure my brain was keeping up the way it usually would).

    I will be seeing Flanagan at the SWF in talks with Anna Funder and Clare Wright. Is this the RF event you’ll be at too?

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